Formal Description:
There are lots
of options for billing, but who is actually using an alternative billing
method, and which ones really work? Find out if certain billing options can
jeapordize a happy client-vendor relationship, how law departments can
determine if pricing is competitive and fair, and who is using analytics to
decide. Our seasoned panel of current and former law department members will
share successes and failures regarding billing options and vendor management.
Speakers:
·
Lisa
Girmscheid, Rockwell Automation
·
Chris
Emerson, Bryan Cave
·
Donald
Knight, PNC Financial Services
·
Eyal
Iffergan, Hyperion Global
·
An
Trotter, Viacom
See tweets at #ldpg and
slides here.
These are my notes from the session, forgive typos and any misattributions.
Overview
This session was
standing room only, though with an odd small-table-and-banquet layout. I was impressed
with the extensive and frank discussions that addressed a wide range of
critical pricing issues. It's great that ILTA can provide a forum for dialogue
between law firms and law departments, albeit at the staff and not business
owner level.
AFA Trends
AFAs are
increasing slowly in the last two years, from 16% to 19% of legal work. Chris
Emerson is not seeing increases in AFAs, but he is seeing increases in requests
for budgets.
A budget is a
process statement, it isn't far from that to a statement of work. It's been
encouraging to see evolution of pricing directors and the like.
Portfolio
analysis versus Bottom-Up
Chris Emerson
suggests that law firms can take an "averages" approach with
portfolio work, but the best pricing comes from detailing tasks and assumptions
behind the tasks. How many depositions will there need to be? Who will be
leveraged to do the work?
Obstacles to
AFAs
The room agrees
that law firms are more comfortable with the billable hour than AFAs. This
strikes Eyal Effergen as "smoke and mirrors" as there is little
dialogue around value. 95% of firms are offering AFAs.
An audience
member commented that law firms that have negotiated an arm's length fixed fee
arrangement shouldn't have to worry about "shadow billing" (in which
billable-hour and phase/task code information is provided despite a fixed fee
arrangement).
An Trotter and
her GC agrees with that comment. She expressed frustration around having to
notify firms that they have gone over budget, even though they get the data 60
or 90 days later.
Donald Knight
doesn't agree with the objection to shadow billing. He wants to know what he's
getting.
Profit and Value
Clients wonder
why they should help law firms continue 35%+ profit margins when they are
getting by on 3-12% margins themselves.
It's not a
problem that attorneys earn lots of money, but corporations are upset about the
profit margins.
Corporations may
be asking for this additional information because they don't understand what
they get from outside counsel spend.
Another audience
member asked, what if lawyers started acting as general contractors, getting
autonomy to shop? Has there been mixing & matching of content and
service providers? Yes, in the eDiscovery area. The market dictates that the
specialized work will be able to bear the higher rates.
An audience
member has seen this sort of thing happening in health care and IP practices
already. It hasn't really hit the litigation groups? Reverse auctions are
starting.
Litigation AFAs
Where 13% of law
firms say they use AFAs for litigation, 67% of law departments use AFAs for
litigation.
Software
Key areas of
software used are eBilling, matter management, and accounting.
Most eBilling
systems for law departments also include matter management these days.
Accounting systems are only marginally useful for collecting information about
law firm matters.
Share Prebill
Information?
An Trotter would
like to see transparency around law firm information. She'd like to see law
firm pre-bill data fed into the law department data.
An audience
member (Julie Richer from the American Electric Power Legal Department)
indicated that the new cloud-based service Viewabill
that would allow law firms to privately share prebill information with law
departments.
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